Just x Yet x Already x Ever x Never: Quando utilizar

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Mensagempor helomarquesa » 05 Fev 2010, 15:01

Olá!

Minha dúvida é a seguinte, sempre q eu usar uma dessas palavrinhas JUST/YET/ALREADY/EVER/NEVER, é present perfect?? ou pode ser present perfect continuous??

A diferença entre eles pra mim é muito clara, mas na hora dos exercícios, parece q qq um deles está correto!

ex: __________ my brown purse? (see/you)
é PP ou PPC??

Obrigada!!
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Re: Just x Yet x Already x Ever x Never: Quando utilizar

Mensagempor Donay Mendonça » 05 Fev 2010, 16:28

Olá Helomarquesa,

Vejo mais possibilidades de 'present perfect' quando estes termos são inseridos."Just","already","yet" são normalmente usados para descrever ações concluídas num tempo passado recente.Este é também o caso do exemplo que você menciona.

"Have you seen my brown purse?"-->Present perfect simple.

"Ever" e "never" podem ser usados assim:

1.Have you ever seen it?(Você já viu isto?)
2.I have never been abroad.(Eu nunca estive no exterior.)

Estas também são Present Perfect.

Bons estudos!
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Re: Just x Yet x Already x Ever x Never: Quando utilizar

Mensagempor Jveneroso » 09 Mai 2013, 15:44

Poderia verificar se essas frases estão corretas.

2. Have you ever visited your friend?
3. I don’t still eaten.
4. Have you ever studied to the test?
5. You haven’t spoke about this yet.
6. I have just made a call.
7. I still haven’t done the diner.
8. I’ve never lived outside of Brazil.
9. Have you ever go swimming?
10. I have already forgotten this issue.
11. I've never broken leg.
12. You haven’t read this book yet.

Muito obrigada!
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Re: Just x Yet x Already x Ever x Never: Quando utilizar

Mensagempor Donay Mendonça » 09 Mai 2013, 15:49

Sugestões de correção:

2. Have you ever visited your friend? [correta]
3. I still haven't eaten.
4. Have you ever studied for the test?
5. You haven’t spoken about this yet.
6. I have just made a call. [correta]
7. I still haven’t made dinner.
8. I’ve never lived outside Brazil.
9. Have you ever gone swimming?
10. I have already forgotten this issue. [correta]
11. I've never broken a leg.
12. You haven’t read this book yet. [correta]



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Re: Just x Yet x Already x Ever x Never: Quando utilizar

Mensagempor Jveneroso » 09 Mai 2013, 16:00

Thank you very much!

You very helped.

:)
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Past Perfect

Mensagempor Gustavo Sena » 29 Jul 2013, 18:00

I've been studying the structure Past + Past Participle and I'm not pretty sure concerning how to answer.
The book shows two ways to ask using it, the first one, which is the following, I was able to to understand completely:

When you were 10 years old, had you moved to a new house more than once?
Yes, I had moved to a new house more than once.
No, I hadn't moved to a new house more than once.

Then, the book gives us another way to ask these questions:

When you were 10 years old, had you already met your best friend?

Had I better answer this question using the same structure as before:
Yes, I had met my best friend.
No, I hadn't met my best friend.

Should I answer just like when the person asks with ever, using already and never, regarding that the second question has already:
Yes, I had ALREADY met my best friend.
No, I had NEVER met my best friend.

Or can I use both ways to respond?

In general, I want you to tell me if the answer must change because of the ''Already'' in the second question.

Thanks a lot really.
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Re: Past Perfect

Mensagempor Sra_Tradutora » 29 Jul 2013, 21:03

Gustavo Sena escreveu:Should I answer just like when the person asks with ever, using already and never, regarding that the second question has already:
Yes, I had ALREADY met my best friend.
No, I had NEVER met my best friend.


I would keep the structure with "already":
Yes, I had ALREADY met my best friend.
No, I hadn't ALREADY met my best friend.

You can use "never" as the opposite of "ever" but not the opposite of "already".

Or can I use both ways to respond?


"Tinha conhecido meu amigo" and "Já tinha conhecido meu amigo" don't quite mean the same thing, do they? I would keep the "already".
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Re: Past Perfect

Mensagempor Henry Cunha » 29 Jul 2013, 21:54

(1)As an alternative to

"No, I hadn't ALREADY met my best friend."

I would consider

No, I hadn't YET met my best friend. (or)
No, I hadn't met my best friend YET.

(2) This is an odd construction -- particularly without "already":

"When you were 10 years old, had you moved to a new house more than once?"

A better alternative would be:

By the time you were 10 years old, had you moved to a new house more than once? (or)
By age ten, had you moved to a new house more than once?
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Re: Past Perfect

Mensagempor Gustavo Sena » 30 Jul 2013, 00:05

I was going to ask whether I could use also YET in the negative form, but Henry has just answered it.

Sra. Tradutora, as you said, we can use never as an opposite for EVER but not for ALREADY.
it is still possible to use Never, if we make some changes in the structure of the past perfect:

Had you ever tried to speak English before attending E.E?
Yes, I had already tried to speak English before attending E.E.
No, I had NEVER tried to speak English before attending E.E.

I'm right, aren't I?
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Re: Past Perfect

Mensagempor Sra_Tradutora » 30 Jul 2013, 00:11

Gustavo Sena escreveu:Sra. Tradutora, as you said, we can use never as an opposite for EVER but not for ALREADY.
it is still possible to use Never, if we make some changes in the structure of the past perfect:

Had you ever tried to speak English before attending E.E?
Yes, I had already tried to speak English before attending E.E.
No, I had NEVER tried to speak English before attending E.E.

I'm right, aren't I?


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