"On the Internet" está certo?

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Henry Cunha escreveu:But try these on Google:

"I found this site in the internet"
"I found this article in the internet"
"I found this photo in the internet"

I don't find these uses of "in" unusual. The Internet is a place, isn't it?


Since "in the Internet" is the literal translation of "na Internet", I can understand that it doesn't seem unusual to you. Perhaps the Google results for "in the Internet" are from non-native speakers who translated it literally from their own language?

Finding an authoritative explanation isn't easy. This is the best one that I have found (from a couple of journalists and editors): http://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2012/11/in-vs-on.html

"By the late 800s, though, people began using 'in' more loosely to refer to being within things like a book or the writings of an author. The preposition is being used in this sense when we say something is 'in' a movie or an article or a newspaper.

[…]

In the late 19th century, English speakers started using 'on' to refer to a medium of communications—the telephone at first, then radio, television, and the Internet."

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Avatar do usuário Henry Cunha 9970 2 17 177
No, I'm not at all affected by Portuguese in this case. And no, the Google results represent a wide selection of native speakers and sources. In addition, see for instance

"Only the overreaching definitions of the two principal name spaces in the Internet, the Internet Protocol address space and the Domain Name System, are ..." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet)

"The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) provides oversight and coordination for two principal name spaces in the Internet, the ..."
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Internet)

I am merely saying that there are instances in which it is appropriate to use "in the internet".
Avatar do usuário Henry Cunha 9970 2 17 177
What are the possible meanings of these sentences?

There is a debate on the internet tonight.
There is a debate in the internet tonight.
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Henry Cunha escreveu:I am merely saying that there are instances in which it is appropriate to use "in the internet".


Yes, perhaps when we speak of the inner workings of the Internet rather than the content?

Henry Cunha escreveu:What are the possible meanings of these sentences?

There is a debate on the internet tonight.
There is a debate in the internet tonight.


My guess is that they both mean the same thing, but one is much, much more common than the other.
Avatar do usuário PPAULO 39735 6 32 695
I found the photo in the internet x On the Internet...

Aproximadamente 36.300 resultados
(that without sifting the hits of Phillipino and others peoples that use English, and without weeding out the ones coming from basic level people, the ones in slangy sites etc.)


Aproximadamente 7.810.000 resultados


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I suggest you run a search with the mid-sentence "In the internet" within some Corpus, could be the following one. Then do it again with "On the internet'".
http://corpus2.byu.edu/glowbe/


Google sometimes can be too much "democratic", not to say lower the bar when it comes to grammar.


Someday IN may be used as standard, but not yet. I think. Anyway, not being judgemental, I would get it if I read it somewhere else.

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To FelyBr I would say, you even could use "in" when you are chatting or something, but remember of ''on" when sitting some exam.
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