Prática de Fluência com Moderadores

Olá...gostaria de sugerir um dia determinado em que reunissem moderadores (ou pessoas que falam ingles mto bem) para uma conversa descontraida em um programa que pudesse abrigar uma quantidade de pessoas razoavel, assim praticariamos o ingles de forma mais eficiente com gente que realmente sabe :D


peace!

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23 respostas
maryziller 1 2
I thin this is a good idea, but it requires planning. What topic do you suggest for a first meeting? If you come up with a plan, I would be willing to open my virtual classroom. It holds places for up to 200 participants. But I am not good at thnking on my feet (=thinking fast, hinking without a script, being spontaneous), so if we don't have a plan, it could be disappointing.

I am open to suggestions for topics and ways to interact together. My room lets us use a microphone, whiteboard, share powerpoints and watch yutube videos. You have to have a fast internet connection or it does not work.

Any creative planners out there?
maryziller 1 2
I think* (not I thin) in the above post, which I can no longer edit.
Flavia.lm 1 10 95
Pessoal

Na semana passada eu tirei uns minutinhos para entrar no chat aqui do EE. Só tinha gente na sala do nível básico, daí entrei lá, me apresentei e me coloquei à disposição para quem quisesse ajuda, e me ofereci para ficar observando a conversa deles e fazer comentários/correções onde eu achasse que fosse necessário (desde que eles aceitassem, lógico). O pessoal aprovou a idéia e lá fiquei por uns 40 minutos...

De cada 10 perguntas, 9 tinham resposta aqui mesmo no fórum. Ou seja, mais fiquei ensinando a usar o campo de busca do que conversando em inglês com a galera. Independentemente disso, foi uma experiência legal e eu tenho intenção de voltar lá mais vezes. Infelizmente não tenho muito tempo disponível, mas qdo eu for entrar lá de novo eu aviso o pessoal daqui.
maryziller 1 2
Congratulations, Flavia. Way to go!
Marcio_Farias 1 23 214
Flavia, so you had a hell of a lot of hard work teaching chatters not English--but how to use Google. Better luck next time!

I think I will, nonetheless, give accessing the forum's chatroom a try. That'll probably take me back to the times I used to chat on IRC channels.
Anúncio Você tem medo de falar inglês? - Se você já estudou inglês mas ainda se sente inseguro(a) saiba que o primeiro passo é se expor ao idioma. Converse grátis por 15 minutos com um professor de inglês nativo, você vai se surpreender o quanto isso pode fazer a diferença.

Começar agora!
Flavia.lm 1 10 95
Márcio

Actually, teaching how to use the blog and forum. Most of their questions were already answered here, but they didn't know it.
Gabi 1 1 15
That's true.
Flavi taught me how to use the glorious finder in the EE website.
But, I'd just love to have one of those virtual classes with Mary. I'm completely game for that.
I suggest asking her what day would be the best for her classroom and I my idea for the first
topic is global warming. It might be boring to some people, but well, I quite like it and could be very interesting.Just an idea,
Achei legal a ideia da Flávia. Apesar de conhecer o EE por muito tempo, eu não participava do forum e nem do chat. Gostaria de poder ajudar. Vou entrar mais vezes no chat e ajudar as pessoas por lá.

See you.
Flavia.lm 1 10 95
Pessoal

Como a Mary já disse aí em cima, é uma coisa que precisa de certo planejamento. Confesso que fiquei até preocupada qdo entrei na sala de chat e vi um grupo de pessoas extremamente interessadas em aprender, porém com poucas condições de ajudar umas às outras. Acho que isso não acontece só lá, acontece também com muitos daqueles que disponibilizam o MSN na seção "Praticar inglês", adiciona um monte de gente pra praticar, mas esquece que, a não ser que uma das pessoas que vc adicionou seja professor e esteja disponível para te ajudar com suas dúvidas, é necessário algum outro tipo de orientação além do somente "praticar" --> e isso vale principalmente para os iniciantes.

Não faria muito sentido eu falar pro pessoal sair do chat e vir pra cá (rs, até mesmo porque eu acho que levaria uma bronca se fizesse isso). Eu entendo que o objetivo do chat é bem diferente do objetivo do fórum. Só acho uma pena que algumas pessoas freqüentem apenas o chat e não explorem o restante do conteúdo do site - daí o meu "puxão de orelha" neles (e na Gabi também, rs...) pra aprenderem a procurar o que precisam, e assim unir o útil ao agradável (conhecimento + troca de informação online). ;)
bom então...primeiramente muito obrigado pela atenção dada ao meu topico :D
mas a conversa de que estou falando seria conversa oral mesmo...nao apenas um chat (visto que o chat EE é otimo para esses fins), pois preciso praticar minha fluência, assim como ajudaria a vocês (que ja sabem falar o inglês) a se exercitarem um pouco mais...
como eu disse seria uma conversa descontraida (isso é, sem relação "aluno-professor" para tirar duvidas e talz...)
fico no aguardo galera!

peace!
Anúncio Você tem medo de falar inglês? - Se você já estudou inglês mas ainda se sente inseguro(a) saiba que o primeiro passo é se expor ao idioma. Converse grátis por 15 minutos com um professor de inglês nativo, você vai se surpreender o quanto isso pode fazer a diferença.

Começar agora!
maryziller 1 2
Gabi escreveu:That's true.
Flavi taught me how to use the glorious finder in the EE website.
But, I'd just love to have one of those virtual classes with Mary. I'm completely game for that.
I suggest asking her what day would be the best for her classroom and I my idea for the first
topic is global warming. It might be boring to some people, but well, I quite like it and could be very interesting.Just an idea,
Let's collect materials on global warming and create a collaborative powerpoint that we can use as a basis of a virtual class.

Please post your information (pictures, facts) to this slide show.
https://docs.google.com/present/edit?id ... cmN4&hl=en

Add a slide with information you have gathered. We can use only copyright free materials such as from wikipedia and government documents, and pictures in the public domain or with community commons copyright.

This collaborative document will be the basis of our English class. Participants will be prepared to present their information suring a live wiziq session moderated by Mary.

It should be visible and editable to everyone with the link, but if you need an invitation to view the slideshow, pm me here on the blog, please.

The knowledge of the community is greater than most individuals in it. Presenting live will be a great opportunity to practice your speaking skills. Participating in a live session will be an opportunity to practice your listening, reading, and writing skills while expanding your vocabulary, depending on your level of proficiency.

I will need two co-moderators during the live session. Everyone will need headsets and a free account at http://www.wiziq.com to participate.
pretty idea mary! thanks for the assist and attention...
ill wait for it xD
maryziller 1 2
dublack escreveu:pretty idea mary! thanks for the assist and attention...
ill wait for it xD

Dublack--

It is not sufficient to just "wait" for it. Everyone has to go to the google persentation (collaborative powerpoint online) and add information about the topic global warming.

This is a collaborative venture were the participants (learners) do the research and post their findings to the google presentation.https://docs.google.com/present/edit?id ... cmN4&hl=en

There are 71,000 readers of the blog. I am not sure how many readers there are registered in the forum, but certainly many. so far, no one had added any information to the google presentation.

I have invited in a comment on today's blog post https://www.englishexperts.com.br/curso ... os-indice/ Alessandro, Donay, and Adir to co-facilitate with me. I hope they read the comment and will say yes.

So far this class is just an idea because no one is participating in the preparation. It is up to you readers if you want to make it a reality.
uma idéia bem legal vamos fazer como ??
Gabi 1 1 15
Mary, I've done something of what you proposed but there are some parts in the power point that I just don't know if I'm allowed to express my opinion or if I should write something impartial.
Could you have a look at it , please?

https://docs.google.com/present/edit?id ... cmN4&hl=en
Anúncio Você tem medo de falar inglês? - Se você já estudou inglês mas ainda se sente inseguro(a) saiba que o primeiro passo é se expor ao idioma. Converse grátis por 15 minutos com um professor de inglês nativo, você vai se surpreender o quanto isso pode fazer a diferença.

Começar agora!
Gabi 1 1 15
Ow, and I've made an account on the website you'd mentioned.
Shall I wait till you open the online class and then confirm my attendance:?
What is the role of a co-moderator? I'd like to help, but I'm not
sure whether I'll be capable to.
mili
Mary, I have some ideas:

for example

if you go to the webpage: http://http://www.esl-lab.com/elem/elemsc1.htm

you will find a lot of dialogues and for example I chose this easy one:

Randall: Hello. Today I'm interviewing Joshua on his experiences going to a Japanese school. Now Joshua, what time do you go to school?
Joshua: Eight O'clock.

Randall: Eight O'clock. And do you go by yourself, or on a school bus?

Joshua: No, I have a group that goes with me.

Randall: So you go with a group?

Joshua: Uh-huh.

Randall: Now what kinds of things do you take to school?

Joshua: I take my taiso fuku, that is gym clothes, and I take my backpack and my books [ Oh, okay. ] and stuff like that.

Randall: Okay and what is the first thing you do when you get to school?

Joshua: We do "kiritsu, rei."

Randall: "Kiritsu" and "rei." Now what are those?

Joshua: It means "stand up, bow."

Randall: Stand up and bow.

Joshua: Uh-huh.

Randall: And what do you study at school?

Joshua: We study kokugo, that is writing and reading and stuff like that [ Okay ], and sansu, that's math. [ Okay. ]. And, let's see . . . , we do gym too.

Randall: Okay, and where do you eat lunch? Do you have a lunchroom or cafeteria?

Joshua: No, we eat in our classroom.

Randall: You eat in your classroom! [ Yeah. ]. Oh wow. That is very interesting. Now what time do you come home from school?

Joshua: We come home sometimes at 3:00 and sometimes at 2:00.

Randall: Okay, well thank you very much Joshua.

Joshua: You're welcome.


...

So Mary all the students can listen to this dialogue at the webpage above and then they can go to the class with you, introduce themselves and after that you could ask some people to read the dialogue, then make some questions and try to see if you can make everybudy speaks...at least answering or making questions: ones to anothers....


I think this website is fantastic, because there are so many dialogues and you can chose between easy, medium and difficult and anyone can listen at it any day anytime...


or you could for example sign up for free lessons from Englishtown.com and ask everybody else to do the same then pick a dialogue and work on this one.

or another option would be for example I can mail you a lesson from learn real english and you can ask some people to read the dialogue, then ask others to read the mini story lessons, and the others will answer the questions...there are so many questions....



I am writing it too fast, so if I missed something or if you did not understand it, just ask me....I am here to learn and help as well


thanks

mili
maryziller 1 2
Update on the google presentation collaborative powerpoint.

Several people have made additions. When it is done and Alesandro is available (and Adir and Donay, if they can help) I will schedule the calss at wiziq.

Role of the co-modrators: Alessandro and Adir have a lot of experience hosting padcasts. The role of the moderator in a live session is to give people the microphone and writing tools, if they need the whiteboard to write on the board. That role falls to me because only one person can pass the mic the way it is set up at wiziq. I will give all the co-moderators mics.

The co-moderators will host the show. They will call on participants to present the material they have created in the powerpoint. They will make comments on the presentations, ask questions of the audience maybe or do whatever they think is a good class.

Because the show will be recorded, it is imperative (necessary) that all pictures be taken only from the public domain such as government sites, or be community commons licensed (wikimedia commons has free pictures). Same with any material that we use: it has to be from a free or share-alike community commons licensed resource such as wikipedia, wiknews, wiki educator, wikiversity, etc.

Therefore, although the dialogs from http://http://www.esl-lab.com/elem/elemsc1.htm are indeed fantastic and even catagorized by proficiency level, since they are copyrighted, we cannot use them in a wiziq session.

I am very pleased that a good start has been made. feel free to create as many slides as you need to express the information and ideas that you want to speak about.

The methodology that I usually follow when creating a lesson plan is:
1. go over vocabulary related to the topic
2. listen to the learners' presentation of their information
3. let people discuss what was presented (using the mic, ask questions of the presenter or make comments)
4. some kind of endproduct where we practice the new language forms we have learned or heard, if we already knew them: (debate of the pros and cons of global warming, or role play of a developer who wants to destroy protected regions in order to build a hotel and shopping mall, (or other situations that can be role-played), or another activity that you readers think of as a production activity).

So, far it is coming along nicely. Great collaboration. Feel free to participate, if you have not yet begun. It is located here:
https://docs.google.com/present/edit?id ... cmN4&hl=en

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Part of the image got cut off. You can view it at:
https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B8JNtc ... NmQ1&hl=en
Gabi escreveu:Mary, I've done something of what you proposed but there are some parts in the power point that I just don't know if I'm allowed to express my opinion or if I should write something impartial.
Could you have a look at it , please?
I would encourage you to express your opinion, Gaby. I like the contribution you and the other contributors have made.
maryziller 1 2
mili escreveu:Mary, I have some ideas:

for example

if you go to the webpage: http://http://www.esl-lab.com/elem/elemsc1.htm

you will find a lot of dialogues and for example I chose this easy one:



So Mary all the students can listen to this dialogue at the webpage above and then they can go to the class with you, introduce themselves and after that you could ask some people to read the dialogue, then make some questions and try to see if you can make everybudy speaks...at least answering or making questions: ones to anothers....


I think this website is fantastic, because there are so many dialogues and you can chose between easy, medium and difficult and anyone can listen at it any day anytime...


thanks

mili
Mili these are all great resources but these resources are copyrighted. We may not use copyrighted materials in the live sessions at wiziq because they will be recorded and archived on the internet, which would be the same as illegaly distributing the material. If you get permission to use the material from the authors, then you can use them.

That is why I suggested that we create our own powerpoint with our own, original material.
maryziller 1 2
Elianamazoti escreveu:uma idéia bem legal vamos fazer como ??
Alguem pode traduzir a oartes que eu não sei traduzir, por favor.

How to participate:
Como participar:

Topic: global warming
Assunto: o aquecimento global


Add a slide to this powerpoint
Adicione um slide ao PowerPoint neste link:

https://docs.google.com/present/edit?id ... cmN4&hl=en

You have to registrar at http://www.wiziq.com because the virtual classroom is hosted there.
Você tem que registrar em http://www.wiziq.com porque a sala de aula virtual está hospedado lá.
Você precisa se cadestrar no http://www.wiziq.com porque a aula vai ser hospida lá.

Be prepared to talk in the live session about the information you have researched and added to the slide.
Esteja preparado para falar na sessão ao vivo sobre as informações que você pesquisou e adicionado ao slide.

You will need a headset and a mic.
Você vai precisar de um fone de ouvido e um microfone.
Anúncio Você tem medo de falar inglês? - Se você já estudou inglês mas ainda se sente inseguro(a) saiba que o primeiro passo é se expor ao idioma. Converse grátis por 15 minutos com um professor de inglês nativo, você vai se surpreender o quanto isso pode fazer a diferença.

Começar agora!
PKdbz 3
maryziller escreveu:
Alguem pode traduzir a oartes que eu não sei traduzir, por favor.

You have to registrar at http://www.wiziq.com because the virtual classroom is hosted there.
Você tem que registrar em http://www.wiziq.com porque a sala de aula virtual está hospedado lá.
Você precisa se cadestrar no http://www.wiziq.com porque a aula vai ser hospida lá.

Be prepared to talk in the live session about the information you have researched and added to the slide.
Esteja preparado para falar na sessão ao vivo sobre as informações que você pesquisou e adicionado ao slide.

You will need a headset and a mic.
Você vai precisar de um fone de ouvido e um microfone.
You have to registrar at http://www.wiziq.com because the virtual classroom is hosted there.
Você precisa se registrar no http://www.wiziq.com pois a aula virtual está hospedada lá.

Be prepared to talk in the live session about the information you have researched and added to the slide.
Esteja preparado para falar na sessão ao vivo sobre as informações que você pesquisou e adicionou ao slide.
maryziller 1 2
Update on the live session to practice speaking with the moderators.

I am not sure when we can schedule this online meeting.
I don't want to do it without Alessandro, so we have to continue to be patient until he has time to join us.

Thank you very much Pkdbz for the translations.
PKdbz escreveu:
maryziller escreveu:
Alguem pode traduzir a oartes que eu não sei traduzir, por favor.

You have to registrar at http://www.wiziq.com because the virtual classroom is hosted there.
Você tem que registrar em http://www.wiziq.com porque a sala de aula virtual está hospedado lá.
Você precisa se cadestrar no http://www.wiziq.com porque a aula vai ser hospida lá.

Be prepared to talk in the live session about the information you have researched and added to the slide.
Esteja preparado para falar na sessão ao vivo sobre as informações que você pesquisou e adicionado ao slide.

You will need a headset and a mic.
Você vai precisar de um fone de ouvido e um microfone.
You have to registrar at http://www.wiziq.com because the virtual classroom is hosted there.
Você precisa se registrar no http://www.wiziq.com pois a aula virtual está hospedada lá.

Be prepared to talk in the live session about the information you have researched and added to the slide.
Esteja preparado para falar na sessão ao vivo sobre as informações que você pesquisou e adicionou ao slide.
it would be by skype, and now there is other function, the video conference, that support until 6 persons x)
and i think too many people on a conversation can get in the way.What do you think?
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  2. Faça uma nova pergunta;
  3. Converse grátis com um professor nativo por 15 minutos: Saiba como!